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	<title>Comments on: Salamanders And The New Space Marine Codex</title>
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		<title>By: R</title>
		<link>http://www.less-is-more.co.uk/2008/09/28/salamanders-and-the-new-space-marine-codex/comment-page-1/#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As i read this web page i come to relize that all we salamander players want is a codex for the sallies. If GW just simply made one most of the problems we have would go down. Ya not taking 2 flamers or 2 melta guns in a squad does suck but hi in 5th u can get a flamer and multi melta for freaking free. i see that as a win. The space smurf just need thier own codex due to they have a large grasp for special char&#039;s in the 5th marine codex, while we sallies get our forgefather. Dont get me wrong i use the hell out of Ha&#039;stan and his chapter tatics, but come on we could use Xavier or The Iron dragon dreadnought and hell give us Tu&#039;san our chapter master for god sackies, the man would a freaking monster on the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As i read this web page i come to relize that all we salamander players want is a codex for the sallies. If GW just simply made one most of the problems we have would go down. Ya not taking 2 flamers or 2 melta guns in a squad does suck but hi in 5th u can get a flamer and multi melta for freaking free. i see that as a win. The space smurf just need thier own codex due to they have a large grasp for special char&#8217;s in the 5th marine codex, while we sallies get our forgefather. Dont get me wrong i use the hell out of Ha&#8217;stan and his chapter tatics, but come on we could use Xavier or The Iron dragon dreadnought and hell give us Tu&#8217;san our chapter master for god sackies, the man would a freaking monster on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Cmdr-Velik</title>
		<link>http://www.less-is-more.co.uk/2008/09/28/salamanders-and-the-new-space-marine-codex/comment-page-1/#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator>Cmdr-Velik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 03:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no but it is one of th better ones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no but it is one of th better ones</p>
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		<title>By: Chyld</title>
		<link>http://www.less-is-more.co.uk/2008/09/28/salamanders-and-the-new-space-marine-codex/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why on earth are there still people posting in this post? Is this the only webpage about Salamanders on the itnernet or something? =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why on earth are there still people posting in this post? Is this the only webpage about Salamanders on the itnernet or something? =D</p>
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		<title>By: Xefa01</title>
		<link>http://www.less-is-more.co.uk/2008/09/28/salamanders-and-the-new-space-marine-codex/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>Xefa01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 05:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unto the Anvil of War!</description>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.less-is-more.co.uk/2008/09/28/salamanders-and-the-new-space-marine-codex/comment-page-1/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Kyme&#039;s books are ridiculously addictive, I own both Salamander, and Firedrake, and loved both, and they&#039;ve convinced me to collect salamanders, basing it on characters from the books :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Kyme&#8217;s books are ridiculously addictive, I own both Salamander, and Firedrake, and loved both, and they&#8217;ve convinced me to collect salamanders, basing it on characters from the books <img src='http://www.less-is-more.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find there is no controversy about skin colour with sallies...you do what you want to do.  Personally, the few guys I have which are helmetless have BLACK skin, not BROWN.  Afro-carribeans are BROWN.  Salamanders were never meant to be Afro-carribeans, just dark-skinned, meaning that the current emphasis on BLACK skin is more accurate.
Volcanic rock, igneous rock, is black....Volcanic dust is black.....so it fits.

Playwise, I find Sallies are pretty competitive in 5th ed.  They also get plenty of flamers in an army, I take 2 in my Assault squad, and the sarge has a hammer/shield.
I&#039;m happy to put both flamer and melta weaponry in Tactical squads, and you can kit out all of the dreads to make the most of Vulkan&#039;s blessing.  There are ways to get hammers into the hands of characters too, which is good, pity we can&#039;t do this with sarges.....
I like to take Vulkan, and in larger games, I take Lysander, using him as Tu&#039;shan, but without the orbital strike that Chapter masters are allowed.  I think it&#039;s only right that Tu&#039;shan should have Eternal Warrior, and the Lysander stats are sweet since they also add a hammer/shield combo....
I&#039;ve done very well versus Tyranids and Orks (my usual foes), and a twin-linked flamer is a nasty weapon indeed.
Last game I played, My assault squad mawled my Ork opponent, one flamer burning 11 to death, the other taking down 8.....
Even the Landspeeder option seem to take a passing nod to us Sallies players, the Heavy Flamer and Multimelta combo is a peach. 
Nick Kyme&#039;s writing some good stuff too now, with Salamander and Fireborn standing up well amidst the plethora of Black library titles.  I only hope that Nick adds a Horus heresy book too, since it&#039;d be brilliant to know more about pre-heresy sallies, and of course, Vulkan himself.

Into the fires of battle!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find there is no controversy about skin colour with sallies&#8230;you do what you want to do.  Personally, the few guys I have which are helmetless have BLACK skin, not BROWN.  Afro-carribeans are BROWN.  Salamanders were never meant to be Afro-carribeans, just dark-skinned, meaning that the current emphasis on BLACK skin is more accurate.<br />
Volcanic rock, igneous rock, is black&#8230;.Volcanic dust is black&#8230;..so it fits.</p>
<p>Playwise, I find Sallies are pretty competitive in 5th ed.  They also get plenty of flamers in an army, I take 2 in my Assault squad, and the sarge has a hammer/shield.<br />
I&#8217;m happy to put both flamer and melta weaponry in Tactical squads, and you can kit out all of the dreads to make the most of Vulkan&#8217;s blessing.  There are ways to get hammers into the hands of characters too, which is good, pity we can&#8217;t do this with sarges&#8230;..<br />
I like to take Vulkan, and in larger games, I take Lysander, using him as Tu&#8217;shan, but without the orbital strike that Chapter masters are allowed.  I think it&#8217;s only right that Tu&#8217;shan should have Eternal Warrior, and the Lysander stats are sweet since they also add a hammer/shield combo&#8230;.<br />
I&#8217;ve done very well versus Tyranids and Orks (my usual foes), and a twin-linked flamer is a nasty weapon indeed.<br />
Last game I played, My assault squad mawled my Ork opponent, one flamer burning 11 to death, the other taking down 8&#8230;..<br />
Even the Landspeeder option seem to take a passing nod to us Sallies players, the Heavy Flamer and Multimelta combo is a peach.<br />
Nick Kyme&#8217;s writing some good stuff too now, with Salamander and Fireborn standing up well amidst the plethora of Black library titles.  I only hope that Nick adds a Horus heresy book too, since it&#8217;d be brilliant to know more about pre-heresy sallies, and of course, Vulkan himself.</p>
<p>Into the fires of battle!!</p>
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		<title>By: Third Company</title>
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		<dc:creator>Third Company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an addendum... what&#039;s everyone think of the fluff that Nick Kyme&#039;s putting out? So far I&#039;ve just read the short story, Salamander, and Firedrake. I like it (it actually convinced me to retire my Templars and give the boys in green a go).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an addendum&#8230; what&#8217;s everyone think of the fluff that Nick Kyme&#8217;s putting out? So far I&#8217;ve just read the short story, Salamander, and Firedrake. I like it (it actually convinced me to retire my Templars and give the boys in green a go).</p>
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		<title>By: Third Company</title>
		<link>http://www.less-is-more.co.uk/2008/09/28/salamanders-and-the-new-space-marine-codex/comment-page-1/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>Third Company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a word of caution... the Vulkan He&#039;Stan in the Codex is the current Forgefather. He&#039;s the dude in charge of finding all the little presents Vulkan left laying around. He&#039;s not actually Vulkan.

Anyone who comments about your Salamanders being of African decent rather than onyx black demon-men hasn&#039;t been playing long enough to have an opinion. Punch them in the face. Salamanders can&#039;t really have their own Codex because if you boil it all down they&#039;re not THAT far off Codex. It&#039;d be a waste of your $20, and given how much we don&#039;t like the changes we&#039;d probably all hate it anyway. 

Chyld, isn&#039;t it about time you taught that janitor how to play warhammer? &#039;Course he&#039;d probably choose some lame Astartes chapter like one of the Angels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a word of caution&#8230; the Vulkan He&#8217;Stan in the Codex is the current Forgefather. He&#8217;s the dude in charge of finding all the little presents Vulkan left laying around. He&#8217;s not actually Vulkan.</p>
<p>Anyone who comments about your Salamanders being of African decent rather than onyx black demon-men hasn&#8217;t been playing long enough to have an opinion. Punch them in the face. Salamanders can&#8217;t really have their own Codex because if you boil it all down they&#8217;re not THAT far off Codex. It&#8217;d be a waste of your $20, and given how much we don&#8217;t like the changes we&#8217;d probably all hate it anyway. </p>
<p>Chyld, isn&#8217;t it about time you taught that janitor how to play warhammer? &#8216;Course he&#8217;d probably choose some lame Astartes chapter like one of the Angels.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyld</title>
		<link>http://www.less-is-more.co.uk/2008/09/28/salamanders-and-the-new-space-marine-codex/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 10:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site does indeed suck eggs, seeing as this post is the most popular thing I&#039;ve ever posted on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site does indeed suck eggs, seeing as this post is the most popular thing I&#8217;ve ever posted on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this website sucks eggs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this website sucks eggs</p>
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